美國UAW (United Automobile Workers) 影響力之大恐非常人可想像.  為了要配合打獵季節,  他們與三大汽車公司的四年合約裡有一項是將退伍軍人節從星期一移到星期五................所以明天放假.
Just found this cover in a box. The cover was franked with a SC#65 and was sent in 1866, which is one year after the civil war.  It has vertical imperforation on the left side.

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引用第150樓ming8686于2013-11-15 12:23發表的  :
美國UAW (United Automobile Workers) 影響力之大恐非常人可想像.  為了要配合打獵季節,  他們與三大汽車公司的四年合約裡有一項是將退伍軍人節從星期一移到星期五................所以明天放假.
Just found this cover in a box. The cover was franked with a SC#65 and was sent in 1866, which is one year after the civil war.  It has vertical imperforation on the left side.

The stamp was probably mis-perforated instead of imperforated. It is hard to determin if the stamp was originally franked on this cover.

Good point. I've thought about that too.  If it was mis-perforated, let's say the perforation  was somewhere on the further left which is outside of the stamp, what I don't understand is why the left side has a vertical straight cut (it almost looks like done by a machine)? Or someone must have used a pair of scissors to get that done. The cover was among a pile of very cheap covers I purchased a while ago and I'm not sure why someone would try to fake it without gaining anything, but that's not important since the cover doesn't mean much to me. It is the stamp itself that I'm interested in.

I checked the Scott catalog, it does say that there are vertical pair w/ horizontal imperf existing but does not say anything about vertical imperf. I guess your suggestion is probably right.

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引用第152樓ming8686于2013-11-15 12:58發表的 回 151樓(swift) 的帖子 :
Good point. I've thought about that too.  If it was mis-perforated, let's say the perforation  was somewhere on the further left which is outside of the stamp, what I don't understand is why the left side has a vertical straight cut (it almost looks like done by a machine)? Or someone must have used a pair of scissors to get that done. The cover was among a pile of very cheap covers I purchased a while ago and I'm not sure why someone would try to fake it without gaining anything, but that's not important since the cover doesn't mean much to me. It is the stamp itself that I'm interested in.

I checked the Scott catalog, it does say that there are vertical pair w/ horizontal imperf existing but does not say anything about vertical imperf. I guess your suggestion is probably right.

Hi ming,

You missed an important thing. The stamp was not tied to the cover. The stamp might have been lifed, maipulated, and then put back. This is a good example why advanced collectors prefer seeing stamps are tied to a cover. I did not say that it must be an altered stamp. I meant to say that the possibility is very very high.

I have some experiences that dealers threw some altered "nice" items into a collection only to help sell the lot. Total price was still low. The lot may have a good chance to go fast.

Hi Swift,

Thanks for the advice. I have the similar experience you have and I took some lessons on that. Now I don't get that excited when I see something rare. If it is too good to be true, it probably is. Your advice is very valuable to me.

When I purchased the lot, the seller did not even show any of the covers. It's just a box with all kinds of junks inside. If we just look at the stamp without the cover and let's assume that it's been altered, why one would alter it like this? That's my question. If it indeed is mis-perforated, one could have just torn the stamp at the perforation location and it would have retained some value. If it was imperforated, then some idiot must have done something to the stamp. These are the logics that I can't seem to be able to put together, not so much about "value".

So if we just discuss the stamp itself, we know the fact is there is no perforation on the left - that's all we know. Those cheaters would want to alter the stamp to increase the value not make it worthless. In this case, they made it worse if the stamp has been altered in my opinion. What do you think?

When I posted the picture, I was expecting someone would question the stamp and explain what happened to the stamp. I guess with only the picture here, there is not enough information to make a conclusion. All we know is a cover with a question mark.

I actually planned to remove the stamp and place it on my album (I've done that many times since covers take too much space) but now you make me not to do that.

I hope such discussion will provide some help to the viewers.

Hi ming,

It is not easy to figure out why and how the left perforation did not appear as it should. Frankly, I would not want to know.  I am not able to analyze cheaters' minds, either. The cover is just not conveniencing enough for me to believe that the stamp was from an imperforated pair.

On the other hand, the stamp is still a nice "oddity" or "freak". You must know there is a group of collectors specialized in so called EFOs (Errors, Freaks and Oddities). In the area of EFO, errors are much more valuable than freaks or oddities.

By the way, as I have said before, we are not sure if the stamp was originally on the cover we see. It is very easy to remove a stamp and put it on a different envelop when the stamp was not tied to its original enveleop.

I do not think that I can give any more on this cover.

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引用第103樓ming8686于2013-11-06 08:28發表的 :
之前提到PNC (Plate Number Coil) 帶版號捲筒郵票. 這裡貼上幾封PNC5(5橫連)的首日封. 實寄封也有少數人收集, 只是大部份都是做封(contrived covers that are not reflective of real-world usage) 而非真正自然封(non-philatelic cover).

請教ming大
美國的捲筒票是否都是每捲1000枚?
1980後的捲筒票每捲有幾個版號?
以往見過的版號最高的只有22號
這可能和發行數量有關
數量越大版號就越高吧?
以前單色的常在版號之右邊有
但彩色印刷的好像就不一樣?
 

以前曾在報紙郵文作家手上看過一本
介紹美國的PNC專書
當時僅大略翻一下
好像是32開大硬面書皮
頁數不會太多

Hi Swift,

Thanks for spending time analyzing this for me. As you know, this type of bullseye cancels are very common and hence are one of the popular ones that cheaters like since one can replace the stamp on any covers without a chop mark.

I do have some oddities. Like some collectors, I usually make a story next to the stamp regardless it is true or not. This one will go like this,

1. The stamp is likely a mis-perforated one to start with.
2. Someone tore the stamp inappropriately and made it unattractive.
3. Some cheater made a straight cut on the badly torn side and replaced the stamp on a used cover to make it attractive to buyer.
4. I'm the buyer!!!

Case closed.

tmh前輩,
1.    記得有每捲有分100, 500, 1000, 3000, 10000枚有些500枚以上的還有背號(back number)用來清點還剩有若干票. 至於背號系統每家私營供應商都不太一樣.非自黏郵票直接印在背膠上.
2.    單色票二位數版號最高為22
3.    若為多色就不一定. 如數量龐大的SC#2915A  1996年版國旗票有五色, 版號可有99999, 每個數字代表顏色及印筒號. 但也有A88888. 這A(B,C,….)代表此票是私營供應商印的而非 國營Bureau of Engraving and Printing (BEP).
4.    99999後為 11111A, 22222A來避免用二位數代表單一顏色及印筒號.
5.    收集以全套為主如某票有版號1,2,3,4,5,6那這6枚就是一套
6.    PNC的編碼系統可參考此網 (想到鐘火盛前輩的郵檢戳)
http://www.usastamps.com/references/PNC_Catalog/Numbering_System/Basic.htm
7.    其他請參考此網址(excel檔案). Scott的資料大都在裡面 點PNC DATA再點PNC MASTER LIST - BY SCOTT & DENOM.裡面有Excel file可下載.有這檔案就夠一般收集了.
http://www.pnc3.org/
8.    捲筒轉一圈印一次版號. 最大筒為一圈52枚
9.    有買相關書籍但一時找不到
10. 早在1981年以前就有版號,只是位於邊緣,在過程中已被裁掉..有少量趣味品還可見半個號碼甚至整個號碼(誤裁).只是手上無貨,無法舉例.所以嚴格來說,1981年才有正式發行的帶版號捲筒票.

集新票只能買整捲很浪費錢.
集自然封若在公司行號上班,能找到PNC5大約每30封五橫連會有一封.郵資當然要對且版號要在中間那枚.一般收集人不喜歡看到有1980年之前的郵票混在裡面(有作封嫌疑). PNC3, PNCS (PNC1)相對收集較易, 至於PNC7以上就要看運氣.
小弟已有一段時間沒碰PNC了主要原因是網拍自然封價格不便宜(以小弟的標準). 或許在台灣可撿漏, 因集這個有點冷門.
以上是靠一些記憶,還請先進指正.

P.S.圖來自網站

現代郵票製造程序

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2eOs9YWVK8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KETwb4MLKVI